Astraware\'s website

[DBZ-GOKU-]

hey, I was just wondering what type of code you use for your website. Do you use just plain html, Flash, Java (most likley not), css, or what. I was looking at your source and it looked like you were using some css.

Anyways, I was just curious. :)

[Par]

I think they use HTML, PHP, maybe a bit of JS, Flash for the animations and, like you said, CSS for the styles. That should be enough to make a site like this...

[Howard]

You can\'t see the source :)

Its written in PHP and HTML, a it of Javascript, CSS, and some Astraware Magic.

DBZ - it looks like you\'re post-boosting again...

[DBZ-GOKU-]

Well...I think I did see the source.

If you want to know how, go to \"view\" and then go down to \"source.\" This is where you see the code for your site. That is how I saw the code, and I am not \"post-boosting.\"

[Par]

Well...I think I did see teh source.

If you want to know how, go to \"view\" and then go down to \"source.\" This is where you see the code for your site. That is how I saw the code, and I am not \"post-boosting.\"PHP gets parsed on the server before the server sends it to you...so you can only see the HTML output :)

[DBZ-GOKU-]

That is still the source, isn\'t it?

[Howard]

Nooooooo

What you get transmitted to your browser is only part of the story.

Your browser renders HTML and JavaScript to create your visual experience.

The web site (be it our main site or this board), is constructed out of various fragments of HTML + Javascript, some of which are stored in files, some on a database, and some \"created\" by PHP each time you ask for a page.

PHP allows us to make the code do decisions at *our* end, and only show you the bits we want you to see.

For instance, the code in place that shows the extra forums on the bulletin board when you log in as a beta tester.

Now, if the decision were taken at your side - i.e. the browser - then you\'d be able to view the source and know what else there was.

But, because the decision is made at our end (on the server) we only send the information for the forums and categories that we want you to see.

So, although you *do* get to see the html/Javascript source to each page, you don\'t get to see the actual source that creates the pages.

I hope that kind of makes it a bit clearer. Perhaps David would know other ways to explain it, since he\'s been a web engineer who has had to explain it to managers ;) ;)

Howard.

[DBZ-GOKU-]

No, no. I undsertand now. All I can see is the html and the Javascript. I now understand that the PHP makes it so that only cahnges on your web page can be seen and done by you on the server there. I completly understand now, thanks for the information Had. :)

[Par]

Nice explanation, Howard :)

[DBZ-GOKU-]

Yes, you should award yourself a rosette... :)

[DBZ-GOKU-]

Oh, do you ever use Dreamweaver to make your website?

[Par]

Oh, do you ever use Dreamweaver to make your website?Real men use notepad for webdesign :P

[Howard]

Oh, do you ever use Dreamweaver to make your website?Real men use notepad for webdesign :P

Real men use vi :) Notepad is for wimps :)

I, of course, use \'ed\' ;) ;P


( Seriously - I tend to use Textpad for working with multiple source files fairly effectively. )

Rosie uses Dreamweaver when setting out some of the product pages, to get the placements neat (its a gui editor), and then re-edits by hand into nice html.

[Par]

Real men use vi :) Notepad is for wimps :)Okay, real men do use vi(m), but i was talking about windows :P

[Larry]

Real men use vi :) Notepad is for wimps :)Okay, real men do use vi(m), but i was talking about windows :P
I do almost all of my development using gVim for windows :p

[Par]

I do almost all of my development using gVim for windows :p

*silence* :P

[DBZ-GOKU-]

What is vi(m) or gVim? I have never used or even heard of those. Are they like notepad, but better, or what. Please tell me, I want to know...:)

JI JOE...\"and knowing is half the battle\" (I hate JI JOe, those cartoons are so dumb...). :)

[Howard]

What is vi(m) or gVim? I have never used or even heard of those. Are they like notepad, but better, or what. Please tell me, I want to know...:)

Internet searches are NOT DIFFICULT!!!
http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=vi


JI JOE...\"and knowing is half the battle\" (I hate JI JOe, those cartoons are so dumb...). :)

JI ? I\'ve heard of GI....

[Par]

Internet searches are NOT DIFFICULT!!!

http://board.astraware.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[DBZ-GOKU-]

Sorry, sorry, I keep forgetting. For now on, just give me a mean mad face if I ask something like that again, ok?

:)

[DBZ-GOKU-]

Hey, Had, I just learned how to make it so you can only see certain parts of the source using css. Do you wnat to know?

[Howard]

Hey, Had, I just learned how to make it so you can only see certain parts of the source using css. Do you wnat to know?
You\'re wrong there. Its just that part of the source is in the css, and part in the html. Its all visible, just a bit harder to follow.

I have found a way to completely hide source :
http://board.astraware.com/naked-pics-of-dbz.html

I guarantee you won\'t be able to read that on your browser ;)

I really should be less evil....

[threephi]

I have found a way to completely hide source :
http://board.astraware.com/naked-pics-of-dbz.html
ROFL! Howard, you better pull that link, you\'re going to drive away customers...

[Cheryl]

I have found a way to completely hide source :
http://board.astraware.com/naked-pics-of-dbz.html
I guarantee you won\'t be able to read that on your browser ;)I really should be less evil....
Naahhh! We can all use a good dose of humor from time to time :D

[BigGoodBig]

I have found a way to completely hide source :
http://board.astraware.com/naked-pics-of-dbz.htmlLOL:)

DBZ- is 16. If the link shows what it says, child ****ography is a NO-NO;)

[DBZ-GOKU-]

LOL! That\'s pretty funny. :)

I learned that when you save the style stuff that is with in the \"<!-- -->\" to another file then it is fine

Here is an example:

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<style>
<!--

-->
</style>
<title>What I learned</title>
(etc., etc., ..., what ever)

You would save this file as the main source, say What I learned.htm, or what ever. Then, you would get the contents of the inside the \"<!-- -->\" and save it as a .css file.

Example:

BODY{align-text:center}
(etc. etc., ..., what ever)

You could save that as say, whatilearned.css. Then you would put a link to this file (unaccessible link) that goes to this file displaying the webpage. All they would be able to see would be what ever is in html while looking at the source. It would also show the \"<!-- -->,\" but nothing that is inside it, becuase it is a different file.

Now remeber, this is all what you *could* do, not what you have done. I did forget what link you put but it is something like LINK{link:whatilearned.css} or something like that, if you would like to know, I will go back and look at it again.

Anyways, just thought I would show you.